November 24, 2007
Brett Ingram's Gift Store Generator - Do Not Buy!
This is the second time I have been burned by this marketer
I recently purchased two programs from Bred Ingram, both of them with the additional resale rights package. In both cases I got burned, and I get no response from his support desk at http://www.thinkbigpublications.com/support/.
Here's what happened.
I bought two packages from Bret, the first one Audible Store Generator and the second Gift Store Generator.

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Don't buy these, they do not work!
In both cases, the results were the same. The script would load fine, but during the installation, it would fail.
Now, I'm not a novice when it comes to installing scripts, and I have installed some pretty complicated scripts. These were easy to install. But, they wouldn't work.
Bad coding
Now I want it understood that I am not a programmer. I used to be, but I retired from that field several years ago, and I really don't want to do code. I have never programmed in php, but I used to teach programming, so reading and figuring out code is not a real problem for me. A pain, but not a problem.
So, I started examining the code. The first thing I noticed was that it was an obvious amateur who wrote the code. His techinques were to try things, then comment out what didn't work. Pretty typical of a self-taught programmer, and I can't really fault that because that is how I got my start - way back in the days…. Well, we won't go there.
Just so you understand what I am talking about, suppose you want to build a house. You don't have a blueprint, just an idea. So, you start throwing up walls where you think they should be. Then you discover that one wall isn't in the right place, so you decide to move it. Just to make sure, you leave the original wall there and just paint it over so it doesn't look so bad, then you put up the new wall. Great, the new wall is in just the right place. But you're lazy, so you never take down the old wall. It just sits there, taking up space. That is the kind of code I am looking at. Unplanned code with the old walls still sitting there, just not being used. Not good coding technique. But it will work.
However, this doesn't work.
First problem
After loading the script, I am told to go out and download the data file that contains the books or gifts that will be in the stores. Audible books crashes right there. The file the program is looking for does not exist. I complained to Brad, but got no response. The gift store at least was able to download the file.
Next step was to upload the data file to my server. Well, that worked for the gift store, but of course it wouldn't work for the audio store. I manually downloaded the file from the server and converted it to the proper format, so I now have my data file on both my sites.
Step 3. Break the file into chunks? Huh? After digging through the code, I figured out what was going on, but could never get it to work. This portion is supposed to take the data, break it apart and put it in the various locations in the database so it can then be displayed correctly in the store. Here is where I ran intlo the
Second problem
The program had taken the database I had created, then added it's own tables and fields for the data. Unfortunately, the field names in the script do not match the field names in the database, so of course it won't work.
But there are other issues too. Because step 3 doesn't work, of course step 4 can't synchronize the database, whatever that is doing. I haven't gotten that far into the code because I'm still trying to get step 3 to work. For the moment I have given up in disgust.
Only sell what you have used
One of the key points of selling PLR or affiliate products is to always check out the product before you sell it to someone else. Obviously Bret Ingram has been taking lessons from Cody Moya. They are both selling junk that doesn't work or isn't worth the paper it's printed on. I really don't understand marketers like this. They are getting rich now, but in the long run they will be the losers. If you have not read about Cody's junk, just look at my earlier posts on audio books. Makes some interesting reading.
So far, no support
My latest support ticket was 4 days ago and so far no response. A problem like this, where the product is totally unworkable, should have elicited an immediate response of "Gee, we're sorry you're having problems, we'll look into it." But I've heard nothing. I'll keep banging away at the code to see if I can make it work. If I can, then I'll sell it, with the warning of the places where you should not buy it.
Two places to avoid
Right now the two places to avoid are http://ThinkBigPublications.com and http://www.content-vault.com. I think they are both enterprises of Bret Ingram, so I would just advise you not to buy anything from him. He does not check out what he sells, he is only after the commission.
Why did I buy the second one?
All I can say is that I let my emotions over rule common sense. I knew better, but I looked at the sales page without thinking about the problem I was already having with one of Bret's products, and thought "Wow, just in time for Christmas. A gift store would be a good idea." Yea, right! I am now twice burnt, so I am very shy about anything that Bret offers.
Here's an offer for you
If you are a php programmer, and you would like to look at this code, I'll make you an offer. If you can make the code work and give me a working copy, I'll give you a free copy of the resale rights to the entire package. I paid nearly $100 for the two packages, and they both use the identical script. The only differences are the database interfaces so once you figure out what is wrong in one, you'll have them both fixed.
If you're interested, leave me a comment and I'll get back with you.
Meanwhile, don't buy them, they're defective. They don't work!
Thanks for reading.
This is Phoenix Rising, telling it like it is.


Here is a screenshot of the small video. Pretty hard to read. Especially when you are my age and your eyes are not what they were twenty, thirty, or forty years ago. (I could go back further, but you get the point…)









